IRC log started Wed Dec 23 11:45:44 1998 Tril: do you have ocaml? 12:00pm No, I've never looked at it, but I'm scanning the page now what does the CA in caml stand for? 12:10pm π Tril/#TUNES is away: (afk) [BX-MsgLog Off] categorigal abstract machine language 12:30pm π Tril/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 51 min 23 secs but then they changed the 'm', which in ML means Meta. not actually. it's meaning just has changed to nonexistant ωνω hcf [nef@escher.sdi.agate.net] has joined #tunes 01:20pm hcf, what was it on that samovar awards page you wanted me to look at? (http://www.ecsl.cs.sunysb.edu/~andrew/awards/December.html) 01:30pm samovar? it wasnt me Tril: how do u feel about having an infobot here? ok, I must have got it off a search engine. It claims the remote explorer virus is by the Cult of the Dead Cow. This is obviously wrong, because cDc has nothing about it on their web page. What would the infobot do? err, what info would it have anything it 'learns' or is 'taught' from #tunes hav u experience infobots b4? s/nce/nced/ 01:40pm wait, let me think... are those the ones that trigger when someone says certain words, and quote things ? yeah key=>value pairs the one I saw was just annoying, but that was probably because of the person training it. yeah, it depends on the master(s) and the quality of whats learned the best example is, efnet's #perl's bot, purl can you input to it through a file or something, so you don't have to go through the channel? I imagine it would be useful to have an interface to the entire Review project through /MSG to the bot thers a makedb thing, flat ascii file input do you want to run it? sure go ahead and try it. Just make sure it doesn't learn anything from _QZ. i ran one on efnet/#skism b4 heh u dont see _qz has as a quality infomation giver? ;) make everyone able to add to it smkl: already had that in mind I don't think AI of infobots is advanced enough to be able to correctly interpret sarcasm hcf: u want to run it off of bespin? perhaps the newer the version of perl the better right now perl500404, but it will be 5005 when debian 2.1 comes out or earlier if absolutely necessary thats fine if u msg me ur l/p I can set u an account before I leave in a couple mins.. i was using perl5.00307 01:50pm ok yer set. its bespin.ml.org rite? yes among many other names that work :) that one is what reverse DNS says, so right now it's "official". any idea of a name for the #tunes ib? s/name/nick/ the shorter the better my favorite is 3460260877 as a hostname for my system :) works anywhere, afaik. gotta go π Tril/#TUNES is away: (afk) [BX-MsgLog Off] 02:00pm ωνω Telepathi [0010001111@frtpm1185.ticon.net] has joined #tunes ωνω Telepathi [0010001111@frtpm1185.ticon.net] has left #tunes [] ωνω Telepathi [0010001111@frtpm1185.ticon.net] has joined #tunes !LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LA MERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAMERS!!LAM ωνω Telepathi [0010001111@frtpm1185.ticon.net] has left #tunes [] 02:40pm Tril: did you install ocaml? 03:00pm ωνω _QZ [brand@p0wer.qzx.com] has joined #tunes π _QZ/#tunes is GONE ( bank ) <_QZ> can any1 recommend a good book for someone that is trying to get all that networking shit like novell and M$ <_QZ> all those stupid certificates that dont mean u know shit but u get a good paying job with <_QZ> for a friend's xmas present <_QZ> bbia10or15or20 04:00pm π Tril/#TUNES is back from the dead. Gone 2 hrs 6 min 35 secs buy him "Crime and Punishment" 04:20pm <_QZ> and that covers what? <_QZ> $4.76?? <_QZ> it cant be that great of a book well. it is a good book <_QZ> it doesnt have anything to do with computers of course it hasn't <_QZ> maybe i'll just buy him an inflatable raft <_QZ> one of those huge ones that would fill a room <_QZ> then i'll hook the cord to the package so it inflates when he opens it hey _QZ I gave hcf an account. He is going to run an infobot <_QZ> ok <_QZ> do u know the names of all those stupid certificates? <_QZ> msce, ... nope I live in blissfull ignorance s/ll/l/ ωνω SignOff smkl: #TUNES (sleeping ...) <_QZ> i guess they only mean something if yer an idiot <_QZ> any1 that actually went to school for cs or practically any other field would know more than an idiot with a stupid M$ certificate <_QZ> :) I have heard tech jobs are in high demand. 05:40pm wouldn't taht mean that u don't really need a certificate? <_QZ> have u ever dealt with some1 that has one of those M$ things? <_QZ> thye havent a freakin clue what a computer is not that i know of I sit in my room where it's dark and warm, and stare at my computer screen. <_QZ> they can install some of win95 and NT <_QZ> but they cant install all the features <_QZ> like drivers for things other than display adapter no MS cetificied people come to visit,and I certainly wouldn't go looking for them <_QZ> there is this company that services all the NT machines at work <_QZ> when our machines kept crashing they said we had too much software on it <_QZ> we had 3 programs installed <_QZ> using a total of 500meg out of 6.5gig <_QZ> they was baffled when it continued to crash after format and a fresh install of NT was your network saturated? <_QZ> no <_QZ> the cpu is overheating <_QZ> but i wont tell em that not a software problem u overclocked it :) <_QZ> no <_QZ> its a p2-333 <_QZ> it ran fine during the summer when the room was cooled <_QZ> but now that we heat the room it is crashing <_QZ> and its the type of crash u get when it overheats <_QZ> i have seen it many times being an overclocker <_QZ> but those msce lusers havent used computers before so they dont have a clue I thought you quit work because nt was crashing. But you knew why? <_QZ> huh <_QZ> quit work? yeah, you quit your job beacuse you couldn't stand another day of rebooting NT <_QZ> uhh <_QZ> no and now you are looking for another one. <_QZ> no <_QZ> when NT crashes i just pull out my pilot and play for the rest of the day <_QZ> until those lusers can fix it <_QZ> or kick back and catch up on some much needed sleep <_QZ> well my friend needs a ride to the gas station cuz he didnt fill up before running out <_QZ> bbiaw π _QZ/#tunes is GONE ( gone ) 05:50pm Tril: how do u feel about 'abi', for the name of the ib? application binary interface? heh, yeah, it can stand for that why do you suggest that name well, its short and it doesnt start w/ f,c,h,n,s,t, or u, thus better for nick completion so just random letters, basically yeah sure, who cares? plus, ppl usually engender IBs, so why not start off w/ a gender specific name OK, set "her" up. :) 06:00pm i did the member app thing did you leave most of the fields blank, or did my script break? it didnt break 06:10pm when abi is up, i'l put up a page of instruction on how to use her, probly @ http://www2.tunes.org/~nef/abi/ ok I put "unknown" in all the fields u left blank. Now what tunes.org email do u want, hcf? btw up to the second logs are in /pub/tunes/irc you don't need to ask me for them anymore :) well, actually they are not public readable yet. 06:20pm uv asked me for logs too nef@tunes.org 06:30pm ωνω Signon time : Wed Dec 23 11:44:44 1998 ωνω Signoff time : Wed Dec 23 18:30:41 1998 ωνω Total uptime : 0d 6h 45m 57s ωνω SignOff: TUNES (brb) IRC log ended Wed Dec 23 18:30:41 1998 IRC log started Wed Dec 23 18:31:46 1998 ok, it's readable now is nef your initials? no short for nefarious what's hcf? halt and catch fire nick of hcf chosen origanlly cause nef was already taken on efnet explanation of hcf: http://www.InstantWeb.com/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=hcf&action=Search Tril is also often used by several other people on efnet. i've heard the folklore nope nope what n/m, misread 06:40pm done, nef@tunes.org->nef@bespin (add .forward if you want) 06:50pm π _QZ/#tunes is BACK [away time = 3h:10m:16s] <_QZ> hcf: u got any good book recommendations to get for sum1? just computer-related? <_QZ> ya not really <_QZ> do u know the names of those certificate things that all the lusers are getting nowadays? <_QZ> msce,... nope <_QZ> i need to find a luser <_QZ> no one with brains knows try MS' site? 07:10pm <_QZ> hmm <_QZ> maybe a good book on internet shit <_QZ> like telnet, ftp <_QZ> win95 style 07:20pm <_QZ> Tril:  _QZ: i got it <_QZ> ok 07:30pm π _QZ/#tunes is GONE ( Auto-Away after 30 mins ) <_QZ> damnit <_QZ> amazon sucks 08:30pm The Ultra Language list is now up on wilma @ http://www2.tunes.org/cgi-bin/wilma/ultra <_QZ> ultra language? http://www.box.net.au/~matty/ultra/ also, hcf is a new member of TUNES g'night! π Tril/#TUNES is away: (afk) [BX-MsgLog Off] 08:40pm ωνω tcn [tcn@cci-209150250072.clarityconnect.net] has joined #tunes hello.. who's actually here? 09:20pm π hcf/#tunes is hey, what's your favorite programming language? hmm, perl, asm What do you think of LISP, Forth, RPN calculators..? (if you've tried them) havnt tried em 09:30pm hmm.. I'm looking for info on APL 09:40pm well, start w/ the comp.lang.apl faq where are the FAQ's archived? rtfm.mit.edu? yep /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/lang/apl/ that was easy 09:50pm I think this "arrow language" could be useful.. have you read Brian Rice's posts? not yet 10:00pm ωνω nef [nef@eland.nerd-herd.net] has left #tunes [] ωνω SignOff tcn: #TUNES (Leaving) ωνω SignOff _QZ: #TUNES (BRiX [http://www.qzx.com/brix] :: sleep) ωνω SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[escher.sdi.agate.net]) ωνω hcf [nef@escher.sdi.agate.net] has joined #tunes ωνω SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) !spice_huh:*! Merry Christmas everyone :)